Commentary from Hebrew University political science professor Ira Sharkansky
"The security fence/wall/barriers reaches into Palestinian areas in order to protect major Jewish settlements, and for practical purposes will be Israel's new border."
So...after this latest diplomatic subterfuge winds down, a few outposts and watchtowers and isolated hippies are painfully conceded, and the fence is constructed, what kind of support will there be for the annexation of the territories outlying the fence?
Posted by: markus rose on December 19, 2003 04:17 PMHuh, markus? by outlying the fence, i suppose you mean those to the east? Israel is not going to annex those, it is possible after arafat's death and a palestinian civil war, that a palestinian state could be in those areas. the areas within the fence are obviously bargaining chips held by Israel, or permanently annexed. then change is that after waiting for almost 40 years for the arabs to make a deal and take back the west bank, israel just gave up waiting and will do it on its own - yeah, i know, you will say that israel is nazi germany for doing it, but what do you expect israel to do.
Posted by: jannol on December 19, 2003 09:33 PMThe Palestinians believe time is on their side. They have been wrong about that for 55 years. Sharon's move is designed to consolidate the area west of the security fence into Israel despite claiming it isn't permanent.
I predict the next step will be a population trade that will be imposed on the Palestinians in about 2 years or sooner if the violence escalates. Israeli settlements east of the fence will be evacuated. Israel will force out many of the Palestinian west of the security fence and give them the evacuated settlements.
Posted by: Reid on December 20, 2003 06:52 AMNo matter what Sharon does I always keep in mind that he is a tactical genius. Even though we might not have a clue what the heck he's doing sometimes, remeber that he is thinking a few steps ahead.
Posted by: Dead Ed on December 22, 2003 05:50 AMReading an article this weekend in the sunday NYTimes, it appears the real issue is whether or not the security fence will encompass the Jordan Valley. If fence takes in the Jordan Valley, 85% of West Bank will be within the Palestinian area, if Jordan Valley remain outside fence, Palestinian land within will be 50%. 50% vs. 85% seems to be the choice Palestinians will get. I bet Palestinians will reject both, and if they do, I bet Bush will veto any resulting Israeli annexation moves.
Reading this week's Jerusalem Dispatch in the New Republic by Jossi Klein Halevi, it sounds like Sharon has planned to dismantle a settlement of around 40 people called Migron, although thousands of supporters are expected to gather to resist.
Posted by: markus rose on December 22, 2003 11:22 AMREID,
That idea is fing brilliant! It won't go over well but its a great idea. Israel needs to gift over about 3-400,000 Israeli Arabs or Palestinians in exchange for the settlers east of the fence, and this provides a great impetus to keep the settlements outside the wall not only to show the Arabs that the fence is not a psychological surrender. At each point Sharon only needs to waive a carrot and a stick and let the destructive Palestinians keep fing themselves. The Americans will resist of course either sincerely or half sincerely and Sharon will slowly keep moving down the path.
If Israel ends up with a transfer of several hundred thousand, a secure fence and most settlements in 3 or 4 years they'll have a secure Israel for many many many years to come. Then they can negotiate work permits for security for Hebron or other holy places, Joseph's Tomb, Shechem, etc... The Palis will self implode and fight a brutal civil war and Israel will of course be blamed, but that's nothing new anyway.
Mike
Posted by: Mike on December 23, 2003 07:20 AMHi,
I'm a journalist with english aljazeera.net , currently writing a piece on the Herzliya Conference and Sharon's "Disengagment Plan". I am trying to get in touch with Ira Sharansky for some analysis/perspective. Does he have an email or phone number?
thanks. I can be reached at the email lme1@duke.edu.
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