Here is a picture of the Chicano Room Mural at the University of Washington Ethnic Cultural Center, which serves as the campus MEChA chapter's headquarters.

I don't speak Spanish, but I believe "Somos Aztlan" means "We are Aztlan". (Somebody correct me if I'm wrong).
The artist's description of the mural refers to:
our drive for self-identity and self-determination.and says the mural is symbolic
of the nation within a nation we wish to build.Can you think of many of other immigrant groups (e.g. Jews, Poles, Irish, Koreans) who speak in terms of self-determination, of building a "nation within a nation" and equating their identity with a particular part of the United States? I can't. Put this mural and the Aztlan movement in the broader context of: demands for bilingual education, demands for preferential treatment in hiring and admissions, demands for full privileges for illegal immigrants; not to mention Mexican irredentism.
Yes, I think there is a significant separatist movement among Mexican Americans. I don't know how many Mexican Americans support it and to what extent, but it seems to be enough of a force that it should be taken seriously and actively rejected. Cruz Bustamante has failed to renounce it, and is therefore encouraging it. He has in my view, disqualified himself as a viable statewide official.
But the problem goes beyond Bustamante. The separatist movement is being encouraged and nourished in the public universities at taxpayer expense. Okay, the UW mural above is 30 years old. But that's not an excuse for the university to continue to celebrate it. Public policies that encourage separatism will inevitably lead to something like this
Posted by Stefan Sharkansky at September 03, 2003 01:19 PMSharkman the left can get away with anythiing in this country. Compare the treatment of Trent Lott to Cruz Bustamente and Remember the Alamo!
Posted by: Joel on September 3, 2003 02:09 PMWhat strikes me about the mural is not the irredentist impulse, but the geographical sweep of it. Near as I can tell, MEChA claims the western bank of the Mississippi River as the eastern boundary of Aztlan to the Missouri River on the north, to the northern boundary of California. I wonder if they propose refunding with interest the compensation we paid Napoleon for that territory. Or compensating the Navajo and Hopi Nations, as well as casino-owning tribes in Aztlan. Given that neither the Spanish Crown nor the Mexican Government ever occupied land north of Sonoma, should we worry about Russian students claiming Fort Ross north to the Puget Sound -- and don't argue that Seward's Folly removes any Russian claim to those lands. If MEChA can reject the Treaty of Guadalupe, why can't the Russians likewise reject their treaty (whose name escapes me). Is there such a thing as an irredentist civil war? Food for thought.
Thank you for your reporting on this issue.
Fred Jacobsen
San Francisco
MEChA can kiss Texas' ass, we have approx. 5 guns for ever man, woman and child in this state. It's going to be one hell of a fight to "win over" Texas.
Posted by: Kevin on September 3, 2003 05:33 PMThis morning on the local NYC news I heard a segment covering two NYC council candidates meeting with voters; both candidates and the voters were Hispanic. One issue of concern was giving the vote to legal, permanent non-citizen residents. The voters were urging it and the candidates in favor of it. Have you heard of that movement in CA? It seems to me another part of building a race-based juggernaut. I'd be interested to see stats on the percentage of permanent legal non-citizen residents who are from Mexico or Central or South America.
I'm sure at some point someone will recommend that illegals get the vote - after all, by then they can use their legally obtained driver's licenses for ID. And goodness knows US policy affects their lives. Isn't that reason enough?
Posted by: susanna on September 3, 2003 08:04 PMsusanna, the loonie lefties have wanted illegals the "right" to vote for years and the "push" for it is getting worse. Soon, ANYONE in the country at election time, will be able to cast a ballot.
Posted by: Kevin on September 3, 2003 08:54 PMOther groups wanting part of the US as a separate nation? Yes. There have been movements in the past to make a separate African-American nation in the South. I think the Communist party backed that for a while in the 1930s and 1940s. There are probably still some fringe groups that favor it, though the idea gets less support now, from what I can tell, than it did in the 1970s.
Posted by: Jim Miller on September 4, 2003 06:25 AMAnyone with a drivers licence or state ID can vote in the great state of North Dakota, no questions asked.
Its each state's prerogative.
Posted by: Markus Rose on September 4, 2003 06:33 AMSeveral MEChA apologists have said 'Aztlan is a state of mind, not a place'. If that were true, why did Mechistas draw a frickin' map!
Posted by: Bird Dog on September 4, 2003 07:21 AMThe map makes no sense...why colorado but not Utah?
And why Northern California? And what about Southern Nevada? Don't they want to viva Las Vegas?
Great post. I was recently writing a review of VDH's Mexifornia, and my editor and had a debate over whether or not this kind of a phenomenon was real. I think you have shown beyond all reasonable doubt that it is.
Posted by: Alex Carnevale on September 4, 2003 09:39 AMYou are all freaking nut cases. Mecha has been around for 30 years or more and just now it's a threat to your all white security? It's a civic pride organization. Normally people join in college and volunteer to clean up trash from city streets and other local volunteerism.
But, this lefty congratulates you all for harping on this issue...the hispanic community is one of the largest and most conservative, religious constituencies in this country. By attacking Mecha, an organization that represents most of the first generation of hispanics to attain a higher education, you are all driving them forever into the arms of the Democrats. We could not have done a better job ourselves. And it did not cost us anything. Thanks!!!
A grateful lefty
Posted by: RitaG on September 4, 2003 10:45 AMThe latest leftist meme is to compare MEChA to groups like Hillel.
NOT.
Posted by: Mike Silverman on September 4, 2003 11:56 AMBlow it out your ass, moronic brownshirt fucks.
And keep it coming - the Hispanics are the majority in California and they'll bury Ahnold the Nazi's Son - oh, wait, we're not supposed to talk about Der Terminator's past!
Posted by: dave on September 4, 2003 08:29 PMRitaG,
This is not about any "threat to your all white security?" Your words not mine. Mecha and the ideas are a threat to all people that want to live under the rules established by our Constitution. Their ideas and ideology are no less dangerous than thous of the KKK, Arayan Nation or the Black Panthers. I would bet that you would be up in arms if a Conservative or a Republican refused to disavow a white supremist group like the KKK. Why the double standard? Do you believe racism is dependent upon ones skin color, as in, only whites can be racist? Your hypocracy is overwhelming, it is probably a good time for you to take a long look in the mirror.
Posted by: Jim Brown on September 4, 2003 11:15 PMLeftist hate groups are not only welcomed in academia, but incubated. They claim it's a free speech and exchange of ideas issue.
The only exchange one sees is dissemination of racial hatred and separatism. The admin at SFSU allowed the "student" PLO group to put up horrid anti-Semitic posters on campus.
"I cannot fully express what it feels like to have to walk across campus daily, past maps of the Middle East that do not include Israel, past posters of cans of soup with labels on them of drops of blood and dead babies, labeled "canned Palestinian children meat, slaughtered according to Jewish rites under American license," past poster after poster calling out "Zionism-3Dracism, and Jews-3DNazis."
Laurie Zoloth,
Director, Jewish Studies Program
The MEChAnistas haven't really thought this through...what would California look like under the Aztlan plan? How would the state sustain itself without federal funding, capital and highly motivated non-Hispanics who drive the private sector? I for one would not stay, I can make a good living anywhere in the country.
Of course they haven't...it will never happen. Most Mexican-Americans have their life's work invested in property values and enjoy a level of prosperty obtained by hard work and sacrifice. Does anyone really believe they want to relinquish all they've accomplished?
MEChA is not about ethnic pride, it's racist, socialist hate speech and should be recognized for what it is and removed from all state funded buildings.
It may be time to move all political groups off campus to regain some balance.
The whole lot of you are straight up ignorant fucks!! How the hell can you compare a group like MEChA to the KKK or the Aryan Nations. When have MEChA members gone around searching for people to lynch or intimidate? You all xenophobic bastards are full of shit!
Posted by: The Man on April 29, 2004 12:01 PM